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Arm AGI CPU

The name of this CPU is bordering on securities fraud. When people see the term "AGI" now, they are assuming "Artificial General Intelligence", not "Agentic AI Infrastructure".

Of course people don't realize that, and people will buy ARM stock thinking they've cracked AGI. The people running Arm absolutely know this, so this name is what we in the industry call a "lie".

by tombert1774381749
This is just a Neoverse CPU that Arm will manufacture themselves at TSMC and then sell directly to customers.

It isn't an "AI" CPU. There is nothing AI about it. There is nothing about it that makes it more AI than Graviton, Epyc, Xeon, etc.

This was already revealed in the Qualcomm vs Arm lawsuit a few years ago. Qualcomm accused Arm of planning to sell their CPUs directly instead of just licensing. Arm's CEO at the time denied it. Qualcomm ends up being right.

I wrote a post here on why Arm is doing this and why now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47032932

by aurareturn1774379093
I think the interesting bit is actually this:

For the first time in our more than 35-year history, Arm is delivering its own silicon products

by steve19771774378820
AGI (Agentic AI Infrastructure) is joining CSS (Compute Subsystems) in their lineup, apparently. Who’s naming this stuff?
by rafram1774379487
AGI = Agentic AI Infrastructure

In case you were thinking about some other abbreviation...

by throwa3562621774374331
Why not ASI? They aim too low.
by oxag3n1774383247
This is like naming your kid World President Smith.
by mkl1774377713
Poor TSMC (and ASML)! They were already struggling with capacity to fulfill orders from their established customers. With ARM now joining the them, I don't know they're going to cope.

Edit: They new CPU will be build with the soon-to-be-former leading edge process of 3nm lithography.

by ahmedfromtunis1774381720
Oh wow already in use by Meta, OpenAI, and more ?? https://www.arm.com/products/cloud-datacenter/arm-agi-cpu/ec...

The TDP to memory bandwidth& capacity ratio form these blades is in a class of its own, yes?

by bt1a1774381213
How fun would it be if due to improved chips handling more model state RAM needs are reduced and Sama cannot make all those RAM purchases he booked?

VC without a degree who has no grasp of hardware engineering failed up when all he had to do was noodle numbers in an Excel sheet.

He is so far behind the hardware scene he thinks its sitting still and RAM requirements will be a nice linear path to AGI. Not if new chips optimized for model streaming crater RAM needs.

Hilarious how last decades software geniuses are being revealed as incompetent finance engineers whose success was all due to ZIRP offering endless runway.

by yabutlivnWoods1774376890
Arm apparently now sells their own CPU's.
by RealityVoid1774373442
is this a cpu that's meant for AI training or is it more for serving inference? I don't quite get why I would want to buy an arm CPU over a nvidia GPU for ai applications.
by vsgherzi1774382522
What does "Built for rack-scale agentic efficiency" even means?
by papichulo20231774376850
6GB/s/core

That's...not much right? Maybe it's a lot times N-cores? But I really hope each individual core isn't limited to that.

Edit: 17 minutes to sum RAM?

by bobmcnamara1774381382
What a product name choice! I wasn’t expecting ARM to pivot to selling snake oil.
by midnightdiesel1774380093
Interesting that Jensen Huang joined in the congratulations for this new product!
by josemanuel1774380542
And the stock is down >2% today
by twostorytower1774379771
finally, a CPU capable of making API calls to cloud providers
by myhf1774381662
ARM riding the "everything is AI" train.

So sad.

by torusle1774380668
Call this an “AGI CPU” just feels like the most out of touch, terrible marketing possible. Maybe this is unfair but it makes me think ARM as a whole is incompetent just because it is so tasteless.

> Arm has additionally partnered with Supermicro on a liquid-cooled 200kW design capable of housing 336 Arm AGI CPUs for over 45,000 cores.

Also just bad timing on trying to brag about a partnership with Supermicro, after a founder was just indicted on charges of smuggling Nvidia GPUs. Just bizarre to mention them at all.

by SilverElfin1774378266
Meta are heavily invested in building their own chips with ARM to reduce their reliance on Nvidia as everyone is going after their (Nvidia) data center revenues.

This is why Meta acquired a chip startup for this reason [0] months ago.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-buy-chip-startup-rivos...

by rvz1774377026
Many of these words are unexplained. "Memory and I/O on the same die". Oh? What does this mean? All of the DRAM in the photo/render is still on sticks. Do they mean the memory controller? Or is there an embedded DRAM component?
by jeffbee1774380001
I was wondering who convinced ARM to manufacture hardware. Turns out it was Meta.
by nurettin1774376524
Now every product will have the AI buzzword in it's name, just like 25 years ago product names started with letter e, from electronic.

So we will see AI Toilet Paper launching in the next months.

by DeathArrow1774380946
I found this article extremely frustrating to read. Maybe I lack some required prior knowledge and I am not the target audience for this.

> built on the Arm Neoverse platform

What the heck is "Arm Neoverse"? No explanation given, link leads to website in Chinese. Using Firefox translating tool doesn't help much:

> Arm Neoverse delivers the best performance from the cloud to the edge

What? This is just a pile of buzzwords, it doesn't mean anything.

The article doesn't seem to contain any information on how much it costs or any performance benchmarks to compare it with other CPUs. It's all just marketing slop, basically.

by vova_hn21774376595