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Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

Yes! Just started reading the table of contents, and already I'm feeling that joy of old-school creative computing. Revival of the culture of personal computers and programming as a technology of liberation. A better future is possible and the power is in our hands.
by lioeters1771506556
I like this magazine vibe, it reminds me of the good ol' l33t zines from the late '80s and '90s. However, if I can offer a suggestion, I'd also pair the technical articles with a little more punky, down-to-earth stuff. They were cheerful, informal, and full of that cheeky, irreverent, cocky smart-ass humor, plus this mysterious edge that made them absolutely magnetic to me. Life just wasn’t so heavy back then.
by maremmano1771516138
> Query based compilers are all the rage: Rust, Swift, Kotlin, Haskell, and Clang all structure their compilers as queries.

I've never heard of this. It's a pity the article doesn't go into details.

by amelius1771506895
Awesome! Was looking forward to the next issue. Paged Out reminds me a lot of the old-school 2600 Hacker Quarterly periodical back in the 80s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2600:_The_Hacker_Quarterly

by vunderba1771518907
[re: page 40 NTP-over-HTTP] ooh i've heard of this! it's being used in real life by Whonix (sdwdate) and Tails (tails-htp/htpdate)

https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Sdwdate https://tails.net/contribute/design/Time_syncing/

by throawayonthe1771529020
I have the printed versions of issue #6 and #7, I highly recommend them!

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pagedout

by roer1771525662
I love Paged Out -- it's basically the only modern equivalent to 1980s BYTE or Dr. Dobbs Journal today.
by jhbadger1771506269
They've got a new web viewer in this issue that can be used to link to individual articles and might be nicer than reading a PDF on some screens: https://pagedout.institute/webview.php?issue=8&page=1
by mrled1771505341
Thank you. I love the wallpapers of Paged Out and always set it as my default wallpaper on MacOS.
by hnthrowaway03151771509765
this is absolutely magnificent, and exactly the kind of thing i wish there were more of in the world.
by keeganpoppen1771524672
I feel like this tweet suggests that the PDF is a polyglot or an embedded second PDF.

https://x.com/gynvael/status/2024180784064598134

by Graziano_M1771508539
Some nice art in there too.
by JKCalhoun1771519712
It has a little bit of a "2600 vibe" but with a more modern look and feel. This is the first issue I've read, and I like it.
by angelofthe0dd1771516757
I took a peak at "Compiler Education Deserves a Revolution" and thought, wtf is this talking about?

It claims clang is NOT "a pipeline that runs each pass of the compiler over your entire code before shuffling its output along to the next pass."

What I think the author is talking about is primarily AST parsing and clangd, where as "any compiler tome" is still highly relevant to the actual work of building a compiler.

by j2kun1771522350
A couple of the stories where I feel I have expertise I found to be a bit objectionable. The title/headline was some clever or unexpected thing, but upon reading it turns out there is nothing supporting the headline.

E.g. "Integer Comparison is not Deterministic", in the C standard you can't do math on pointers from different allocations. The result in the article is obvious if you know that.

Also, in the Logistic Map in 8-Bit. There is a statement

> While implementing Algorithm 1 in modern systems is trivial, doing so in earlier computers and languages was not so straightforward.

Microsoft BASIC did floating point. Every 8-bit of the era was able to do this calculation easily. I did it on my Franklin ACE 1000 in 1988 in basic while reading the book Chaos.

I suppose what I'm saying is the premise of the articles seem to be click-baity and I find that off putting.

by wang_li1771519328
This is so awesome, do you have a mailing list, RSS, etc?
by ihaveone1771516696
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by clarabennett261771518163